Saturday, June 26, 2010

Conversation About My Mother

I see that I got a few comments on that last post.
I think that many of us have uh, difficulties, with our mothers. Over at Michelle's, Michele Rene had asked, "Is this a safe place to talk about our mothers?
And I have always wondered- is there such a place? Is there?

Michelle and Adrienne's mother just died and in her dying, it would seem there had been a resolution of sorts, a realization, an opening to hearts which had, up until the final illness, been as iron-bound shut as mine is when it comes to my mother.

I write that and I tremble- how can I shut my heart against my mother? When she is my mother. What do I not honor if it is not motherhood? My god. I am going to hell. And why? Why do I do this? Even though in that ten-minute conversation I was taken by the scruff of the neck, metaphorically, at least, and shaken like a bulldog shakes a kitten, and as in the cartoon mentioned by Elizabeth, turned back into a bad little girl (even as we were discussing my grandmotherhood), I am the one who feels lost and guilty and angry when I get off the phone with her. This is not honoring motherhood.

I know that if I called her more often, if the situation was more "normalized" by calls and visits, a silly little ten minute conversation wouldn't have done that to me. Right? When I heard her voice on the phone when she realized it was me, I was overcome because for that second, she sounded truly glad I had called and I thought to myself, "Oh, this won't be bad. This is my mother. We love each other."

And then. And then...

Where is that safe place we can talk about our mothers? Because obviously, from the number of comments I got so quickly, talking about our mothers is something we need to do and yearn to do.

Ellen, over at A Walk Into Oblivion, writes about her mother's descent into dementia. She is talking about it. And her words clang into my soul because her relationship with her mother was troubled and now she is having to deal with her on this new level, an even more uncomfortable one, with all of the baggage, all of the unresolved issues, all of the guilt brought on by all of the years behind them. I love Ellen for writing about these things truthfully. She isn't skirting or skating around any issues. She is telling the truth. She is talking about how hard it is for her to take care of a mother who was never easy with her. I think that if it I were in her place, I would be feeling many of the things she feels. It would be a rip of pain in my heart of scar tissue already in place.

When did I start feeling this way about my mother and why? I know but none of it is easily discussed and frankly, I don't feel as safe talking about it here as I used to. I wrote more about it earlier (see my posts on childhood sexual abuse) but now I know that a family member of mine reads my blog and he has a close relationship with my mother and he has been chastising me for as long as I can remember about how I have "missed the boat" with her. "Why can't you love her?" he has actually screamed at me.
And all I could do was look at him and think, "Don't you think I wish I could?"

Don't we ALL want to love and be loved by our mothers?
But you know what? This is my blog, which is my home and if this place isn't safe, where is?

And I know my mother has gone through horrible things in her life which have made her the way she is. Nightmare things. Things no one should have to go through. And now I feel certain that the way I treat her has become another one of those things and how does that make me feel?

Horrible.

And as a mother, I know how easy it is to let circumstances, one's own life's experiences, mental illness and just general LIFE cause one to act in a way as a mother that one does not look back on with pride. If there was any things I have done or not done in my life I could take back, do over, they would all involve my children.

But. But.
I do not think that any of my children will ever be afraid to call me. They know I love them from the marrow of my bones to the utmost reaches of space. I tremble with all of the love I have in my heart for those four people. And my children know that. And here is a grandchild and I get to start all over again, loving him in that way which I had thought I could only love one of my children, but now find that I can love him that way too. It's like a new gift, a new blessing, one that I had no idea lay in wait for me!

I cannot love anyone, even my children or my grandchildren, perfectly. But my love for them IS perfect and I look at each of them and think that all of them are perfect in their own selves. They are who they are, whom they have been since birth, and I am the lucky one who gets to know them as they are and love them as they are without restraint. There is no part of myself I have to hold back in my loving of them. And I don't think they feel the need to hold back any part of themselves in their love for me. I hope not.
This just seems as simple and as self-evident as breathing to me and has since they were born.

Which is why I do not understand why I feel the way I do about my mother or why she so obviously feels the way she feels about me.

Well, I am looking at it this way- on this earth, in this short lifetime, there are people in my life, some born to me, some not, with whom I have relationships that are good. And that those relationships are, as Lis said last week, with people I can trust my heart. THOSE are the relationships I need to feed and to nurture, to worry about doing the best I can in.
And there are people with whom I cannot trust my heart and those relationships are not ones that I can necessarily mend or fix no matter how much I might wish I could.

I do know how to love and be loved. Despite a lot of issues with trust and with fear, I think I have a capacity for loving which is huge and because of those issues, I know when my heart has found safe harbor and I appreciate and respect that all the more.

Thank all of you who commented. I don't know that I am going to answer each comment. I think I am answering them here. But I tell you this- I give my heart here in these words and I trust the people who read them with it. And I know they trust me with their hearts which they give through their writing.

You.
And this is another gift I never dreamed of.

Thank-you all. And if you want to talk about your mothers here, do. If you have great relationships with your mothers, that gives me hope that history won't necessarily repeat itself. And with your grandparents, too. I know that people can love each other truly and deeply for a lifetime. We need to remember that. We need to be reminded of that. And if you, like me, have problems with that most primal of relationships- that of a daughter and her mother- you can talk about them here. I will understand. I will listen and I will acknowledge.
I promise.

Yours truly....Ms. Moon.

21 comments:

  1. When I first "met" you around last Sept,reading about things in your childhood brought me some clarity. A lot of things just about slammed into me. You really made me think. You wrote today about the word trust. I think you nailed it with that word.
    I understand when you say your blog is not a safe place. I feel the same way. I have always wanted to tell you how much you have helped me and most likely many others by allowing us to read about your story. Thank you and others for being there so I can post on your blog, and in thus work on my story.
    Maybe I wouldn't be me if my mom wasn't her, so for that I am glad. I am glad that I can love my brood fiercely. I love so much how you love your family.

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  2. I think we should all have alter-egos, start a blog called All About Our Mother and just go at it. We could have each person do a post a month or something and let it rip. My God, that would be liberating.

    Maybe I'll organize it --

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  3. ah..this is such heavy stuff...the words lay so heavy on my heart but i ll soon speak about my mother..and everything else..things i never spoke about because i was too ashamed...things i wnt to speak about because i have too...to leave them behind...

    for your mother..ms moon...you dont have to love her just because she is your mother..blood and genes are aint enough as we already found out in private...pressing someones head through your hips alone dont turns a woman automaticly into a mother....and if the weight of this mother-daughter thing is to heavy..then let it go...its not carved in stone...this too will pass you by

    @ elizabeth...thats a great idea

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  4. There is so much that you posted that resonates with me.
    My relationship with my mother is complicated. She has always had her view of me, what she believes I am (or who, I should say) and it's far from the truth. So I've never felt heard. Which causes problems, obviously. Have you read Olive Kitteridge? I feel like my mother is a slightly softer version of her. Which is horrible to say, because she means well. I know she does. But she has a warped perception of reality. As we all do...
    So tricky. Mothers and daughters.
    I hope you feel a little better after writing this post, I feel a little better having read it, so thank you :) There is such pressure to love unconditionally, and forgive and move forward and just love because of the ties we have. But sometimes it's not possible. I don't know.

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  5. Elizabeth...fine idea....as honest as I am with my words on my mom...there are stories that are hard to say...an alter ego site...hhhmmm

    Ms. Moon...thank you for being here...wish Florida wasn't so dang far because you and I would be laughing and crying, cookin', walking, breathing in the best that we are and all that we love fiercely...oh yes...you are a friend of the heart.

    Thank you for what you said of my site...it is crazy and I have no time to write. My brain is been fryed and I have been put through the wringer. The past several days have been better and I think I may get to posting some more. For now I have been reading my blog friends post. Some I would like to comment to but have felt even there unable to. Hugs all around to all that are my blog friends!

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  6. Michele R- No. We would not be who we are if our mothers weren't who they were. And for that, we can give honor.

    Elizabeth- You do it or I will. Why not?

    Danielle- I have so few men readers but the ones I have- well, you make up for all the rest. You make my heart happy.

    Corinne- No. I have not read Olive Kitteridge. I think I should. And honey, I don't know either.
    We do the best we can.

    Ellen- As I always say- I am reading. I am listening.

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  7. My mother is sitting by me on the couch right now. We've had four days now of togetherness. Its been eye-opening in so many ways. Good ones, mostly. Life is so funny.

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  8. Thank you dear Ms. Moon for this blog and for telling us your story. I don't feel qualified to comment on mother-daughter relationships since my own mother died when I was 18 months old and my father got remarried to my stepmother from hell when I was five. In between that time, my sister and I were cared for by our saint of a grandmother and I guess I never forgave my father for getting remarried and taking my grandmother away from us. My sister and I haven't spoken to our stepmother in over a year and quite frankly we don't miss her at all. I took all of her abuse when my father was alive, but now I don't have to take it anymore and I'm thankful every day for it and for the fact that my grandchildren don't have to be exposed to it. I just wish I could have spared my children, but what's done is done. I don't miss her at all. What I do miss is my own mother, even though I can't remember her, don't know what her voice sounded like and only have black and white pictures of her taken up until the age of 24 when she got polio and died just two months after my sister was born. Maybe we would have had the same problems as other mothers and daughters, maybe not. I just wish I had had the chance to find out.

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  9. I loved my mother and she loved me. But she also had a terrible time in her last 20 years with depression that was deep and dark. In many ways, I became her care giver. I honored her. And I'm glad that I did. She taught me a lot. Both my parents were good teachers of many things. And respect was one of them. I have no answers about why people do what they do or how we feel a certain way. Perhaps it all comes down to trust, forgiveness, and understanding that we each are merely human.

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  10. Dearest Ms. Moon,

    I was just talking to a friend today about expectations, and disappointments and how a relationship with one's mother really clarifies what you want to do (or exactly what you do not want to do) with your own brood.

    Enough with the only one right way (you HAVE to love your mother THIS MUCH and THIS WAY). Enough with phone calls or other family member's perspectives that disregard your truths and would leave anyone a mess.

    My grandmother used to pull all kinds of manipulative shit on the phone (or, where ever, like at the checkout, family dinners, etc).

    The only way I know to steel myself for such things is to take a deep breath after such an assault and live fully, deeply, truthfully. But first scream into a pillow for at least half an hour.

    Love, Elaine

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  11. PS My other grandma - totally different story - what fun we have together, how amazing that she is in my life! It is not really about grandmothers. Elaine

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  12. Warts and all, if love is our core intention, we'll make sense somehow of whatever has happened between us and our mothers. Thank you for your courage in writing these words and inviting conversation.

    I love my mother, who's been dead for over eight years. I will also say here -- and it's the first time I've admitted this online -- that my mother was the nemesis of my childhood. She was so very ill ... I know so little about her own history and experiences ... and I arrived at a realization of forgiveness while tending her as she died. It had been a journey of 20 years.

    Our mothers carried us ... and we carry them.

    I don't have children ... Because of my own familial experience, I couldn't trust myself to not injure a child. It wasn't until I was forty, with many years of therapy and soul-wandering behind me, that I felt the overwhelming urge to bear a child. It wasn't meant to be. I don't think I could have lived with a child without doing grave damage ... and by the time I arrived at a willing, womb-deep desire to mother, it was too late. I've cultivated deep bonds with a couple of kids who are the grandchildren of one of my dearest friends ... and I've become a beloved Auntie to them. I adore these kids ... and I know, and honour, my limits of tolerance. Too much harm was done to me when I was very young ...and now I am of grandmother-age myself.

    Another friend, who is a devout Buddhist in the Tibetan tradition, once told me that in this lineage, "we have all been one another's mothers." A light went on in me that has flamed steadily since then. It is possible to be a mothering soul ... and to behave in ways that are mothering ... without having borne a child. My husband, for example, is one of the most mothering people I know. His soul is tender, sane, and so loving. He's one of the people who's shown me how to mother.

    Yes, there is a great deal to converse about here. It is possible to both honour our mothers, and to abhor what they may have done. Deep, constant love arrives in many ways ... One of them is through understanding. As little as I know about my mother's life, I still understand. She suffered so much ... and I suffered at her hands ... and I will not inflict such suffering on another.

    I came to see my mother as a whole person -- and that is imperative if we are to forgive rather than condemn. I never knew her as I know the intimates in my life. It had to be enough -- and it was. She died before we could ever have an intimate conversation ... We probably never could have; too much harm had been done. I released my hatred and rage ... and was more present to her as she died than I have ever been. The experience was the gift that sealed my healing into a full circle.

    Bless all of us who reach within and yearn to understand. It is our way through, whatever we choose to do in relation with others ...

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  13. I'm late coming to this conversation, but I'm glad I'm reading it now. I think about this topic a lot. I have a fairly good relationship with my mom. It's not as intimate as I would like. She suffered major depression for years when I was a child, and finally got treatment when I was about 12 years old. She carries a lot of guilt about it, and holds herself back, I think. I always feel like I'm scrambling to get more attention from her. I want my relationship with my kids (when they're grown, especially) to be different, I want them to feel my love deep down to their core. I'm terrified that it won't be that way. We have a very close and loving relationship now, so I don't know why I fear it so. Just my own experience, I suppose. And all the stories I hear, people talking about their mothers and mothers-in-law. I think mothers are like gods to their children, and we have such impossible standards for mothers. I feel a lot more understanding about my mom now that I have my own kids.

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  14. My struggle and angst was with my father, not my mother. Both are dead now. My mother in 1992 and my dad in 2002. The last ten years of my father's life were very difficult for me emotionally, even though I lived in TX and he lived in WA State.

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  15. SJ- I think you and your mother are some of the lucky ones.

    Lois- Yes. You should have had the chance to find out.

    Syd- I agree. But as you are well aware of, knowing why someone acts the way they do does not mean we have to let ourselves be hurt.

    Elaine- Yep. And I have come to realize that when we mother our own children, we are mothering ourselves as well. Which is healing.

    Jaliya- There is so much wisdom born of experience in your comment. I appreciate so much your telling that experience. I think it is easier to forgive someone than it is to forget. I am glad that you came to an understand, to a forgiveness and I want to tell you that every child who has a special aunt in her life is a lucky, lucky child. There is something about being loved and cherished by someone who does not have to love and cherish you because of blood which is more of a gift than anything I can imagine.

    Lora- For me it was having children that opened my eyes to the way I had been raised. As crazy as I have been in my life, I always knew that my children HAD TO COME FIRST, and I know that you know this too. And when craziness and depression have overtaken me, it is because of my children that I sought help. I think you and your beautiful little ones are always going to adore you. I see that quite clearly.

    Jan- Well, fathers are a completely different story and I can understand how a bad relationship with a father is as destructive as one with a mother.

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  16. I'm honored to read your thoughts.

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  17. I don't know where to begin...

    I'll email you.

    Or I'll post.

    Too many words; too many thoughts.

    xoxoxo

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  18. Nancy C- And I am honored to read yours.

    Michelle- I want so much to hear what you have to say.

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  19. I consider myself so very fortunate that I have a mother who was an amazing mom while I was growing up. She let me make crazy mistakes when the time was right and was there to help me put things back together. When the time was right, she stopped me dead in my tracks and helped me get back on the right path again.

    I've talked to my mom two times today and my dad once. If I didn't speak to my mom at least once a day, I'd feel lost and like I've missed out on something.

    And when you think about it, I really would be missing out because as much as I hate to admit it, mom won't be around forever and one day, I won't have her to call just to hear her voice. To get reassurance. ......

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  20. I think your family member who reads your blog needs to back the fuck off. That shit pisses me off because I love you, and I KNOW you do the best you can.

    SB

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  21. That's the essence. Not being able to love and be loved. I don't know how I got so lucky that I can, but she just doesn't have it. Which is the saddest thing in the whole world, but which pisses me off more than anything. And makes me feel rejected every day over and over again.

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